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@BillSeitz ↩️ Sounds like an opportunity for a different kind of Twitter client. Oh well. Maybe one of the IndieWeb wrappers of Twitter? Or Mastodon? (twitter.com/_/status/1062859959191433217)
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tantek.com edited /Events (+894) "/* 2019 */ +IWC Austin, DUS" (view diff)
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[tantek] [chrisaldrich] while you're here - is there any chance for IWC LA in December?
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GWG December as in next month?
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tantek.com edited /Events (+44) "/* 2019 */" (view diff)
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[tantek] GWG yes
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[tantek] !tell [chrisaldrich] any chance for IWC LA in 2018 December (yes next month), and if not, then perhaps January 2019?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[chrisaldrich] It's looking unlikely for December. Scott and I have been looking at some early 2019 dates recently though.
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[chrisaldrich] Winter in balmy LA sounds nice doesn't it?
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Can we go to Disneyland?
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[chrisaldrich] It's just an hour away, so you can easily tag an extra day on the front or the back. I'll go with you.
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: Parkeology Challenge
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GWG Indieweb Disney Parkeology Challenge
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[tantek] Thanks [chrisaldrich] - looks like we might be done with IWCs for 2018 then, which is fine - we had a very good set this year!
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[tantek] And yes, Winter IWC in balmy LA sounds nice - January would be good for that. West LA preferably even
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[chrisaldrich] I think it's perennially difficult for people to try to rally for something during the holidays...
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[chrisaldrich] I have been looking at a UCLA location recently. Doesn't get much more West LA than that.
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[tantek] UCLA works!
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I'd love to come back to LA
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aaronpk hmm I don't have any January travel scheduled yet but the sooner we lock in a date for IWC LA the better chance I have of being able to schedule work travel around it!
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[tantek] Would anyone be interested in an IWC SF2 in December? One day event?
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[tantek] Are there are any existing convenient weeks/dates where people already have or are looking at travel to SF?
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gRegorLove I've yet to visit Disneyland. I'm down.
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GWG gRegorLove: Fun fun
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gRegorLove Down for the IWC part, too, of course :)
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@megarush1024 I lucked out and came across an announcement for this week’s Homebrew Website Club meetup in San Francisco by way of the Indieweb stream and I’m going to attend. It’ll give me an excuse for some structured work on the two websites I’m working on, this ... https://www.arush.io/94297-2/ (twitter.com/_/status/1062866500355276800)
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[tantek] Yay!
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Loqi yay!
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aaronpk I don't think I can pull off an IWC SF in dec sadly
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tantek.com edited /Planning (+447) "move LA to 2019, add SF2 as possible last 2018 to explore" (view diff)
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[tantek] [aaronpk] no plans for work trips to SF in December?
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[tantek] GWG, [gRegorLove] LA moved to 2019 - go ahead and update/edit your interested entry to add notes about Disneyland desire etc. https://indieweb.org/Planning#Los_Angeles
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aaronpk Not yet, and only one week aside from Christmas week is not yet locked in
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[tantek] I'll poll the audience at HWC tonight and make a decision accordingly
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[tantek] I realize it's a stretch, but I'd host an IWC even if it's only half dozen of us
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GWG [tantek]: What day are you thinking in case I can remote in?
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[tantek] GWG, haven't gotten to that level of detail yet 🙂
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GWG I meant...weekday or weekend
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[tantek] Good q. was thinking maybe a Friday
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tantek.com created /2019 (+570) "stub with city, month" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Template:IndieWebCamp (+290) "3 IndieWebCamps already planned for 2019, time to add the 2019 row!" (view diff)
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[tantek] !tell [jgmac1106] did you take a photo at HWC New Haven? Wait is there even a web page? https://indieweb.org/events/2018-11-14-homebrew-website-club-new-haven
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] Nobody wanted to be in the photo... Mainly my students... I will write up a post...had three people with me and one online
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[jgmac1106] I had a page.... Weird.... Let me go look
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[jgmac1106] Probably named it incorrectly
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[jgmac1106] Yet they were all willing to share deeply personal stories online.... I will take that
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] that link is what /events links to - hence my confusion
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[tantek] !tell [tmiller] how's HWC NYC? Did y'all take a photo?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106] https://indieweb.org/events/2018-11-14-homebrew-website-club-newhaven
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tantek.com created /2018/Düsseldorf/Demos (+548) "stub with dfn, to-do" (view diff)
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[jgmac1106] my mistake on the dash between word
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[jgmac1106] Do I copy/paste delete? or wait for gRegorLove and redirect magic
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tantek.com moved /events/2018-11-14-homebrew-website-club-newhaven to /events/2018-11-14-homebrew-website-club-new-haven "dash for space new haven"
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] fixed with a move
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[tantek] !rt https://twitter.com/Lady_Ada_King/status/1062518206345097216
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Loqi Thanks! We need one more person to confirm the retweet!
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[jgmac1106] !rt https://twitter.com/Lady_Ada_King/status/1062518206345097216
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Loqi Thanks [jgmac1106] and [tantek]! https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/1062891685808500736
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@jgmac1106 Anyone early at #ncte18 (not buried under papers) we are gonna host a virtual Homebrew Website Club where we gather to talk about and hack on our websites and blogs. Curious about #IndieWeb, have ??s about your site, or wanna say hello lemme know. #mb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1JKAJt) (twitter.com/_/status/1062899363599581184)
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@jgmac1106 Going to try and see if I can figure out where I went wrong remixing @cleverdevil's watching plugin by trying to make a listening plugin. Logic tells find and replace should do the trick. for vHWC-Americas #IndieWeb (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/dbdfy) (twitter.com/_/status/1062906612975894528)
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tantek.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:2018-318-hwc-sf.jpg]]" https://indieweb.org/File:2018-318-hwc-sf.jpg"
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[tantek] !tell [sknebel],schmarty,gregorlove none of the new HWC event pages have a Photos section - seems like that critical section was accidentally dropped? Going to add in both old/new places and make sure both are in /events until this is for sure fixed.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[schmarty] tantek: Baltimore had it present but commented out until needed. I thought I updated it last night?
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Loqi [schmarty]: [tantek] left you a message 3 minutes ago: none of the new HWC event pages have a Photos section - seems like that critical section was accidentally dropped? Going to add in both old/new places and make sure both are in /events until this is for sure fixed.
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tantek.com edited /events/2018-11-14-homebrew-website-club-sf (+118) "add photo" (view diff)
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[schmarty] https://indieweb.org/events/2018-11-13-homebrew-website-club-baltimore#Photos looks good to me
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[tantek] oh that's odd - we should leave those empty sections visible in the page to prompt people to add stuff to them
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[tantek] like we used to on previous pages
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[tantek] instead of commenting them out fully
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tantek.com edited /events/2018-11-14-homebrew-website-club (+128) "/* Photos */ add SF photo here too to make sure it shows up" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2018-11-14-homebrew-website-club-sf (+63) "/* Photos */ photo by and Paul / not pictured" (view diff)
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aaronpk After the event it looks worse to have an empty photos section than to not have a photos section
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[jgmac1106] I have a picure of me doing my demo that can be a photo, I took photos of vHWC-America
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@jgmac1106 Virtual Homebrew Website Club-Americas #IndieWeb #mb: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/11/15/virtual-homebrew-website-club-americas-indieweb-mb (twitter.com/_/status/1062923554025598976)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Then we also make a 12/31/2019 to have published first issue of a https://indieweb.org/academic_samizdat POSSE Journal about blogging research from any discipline. I wanna bring back some lightning talks like BlogCon 2003-2006., but first we do the journal. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/236eJW) (twitter.com/_/status/1062931019446267904)
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@sdepolo Great chat with @leeodden at #mpb2b bout #blogging and the #indieweb. Good luck on your session with @amishagan tomorrow! https://ift.tt/2PvyOM0 (twitter.com/_/status/1062962287227650048)
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Loqi sknebel consider wikifiying Demo notes for BER and NUR
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Loqi Countdown set by sknebel on 2018-11-14 at 11:36pm CET
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Loqi for wikifying Demo notes for BER see https://indieweb.org/2018/Berlin/Demos
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Loqi Countdown set by [tantek] on 2018-11-14 at 2:43pm PST
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@romanzolotarev ↩️ @t @indiewebcamp Keep writing and publishing how-tos on: https://www.romanzolotarev.com/ Switch to my email campaign management software. (twitter.com/_/status/1063001723822919681)
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@EddieHinkle I posted my #newwwyear 2019 #indieweb goals, it’s quite ambitious. But if I complete all of them, my bonus goal is getting some movement on tracking my books and reading in my website. https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/11/15/5/article/ (https://eddiehinkle.com/2018/11/15/10/note/) (twitter.com/_/status/1063006691065769984)
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@kisik21 Another thing that was not working for some reason is http://mention.tech #webmention support - it didn’t see the link outside of note’s e-content. Could this even be considered as a bug? Since it’s kinda working as intended… #indieweb (https://fireburn.ru/note/1542276854/) (twitter.com/_/status/1063012643181641728)
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sknebel .
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[sknebel] test, please ignore
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@jgmac1106 If you use a http://wordpress.org site or your own domain for blogging I am happy to help you folks walk through the #IndieWeb installations. I taught this class https://edu522.networkedlearningcollaborative.com/ using #IndieWeb stuff and was amazing #ncte18 (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/166j41) (twitter.com/_/status/1063037426275368961)
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@jgmac1106 So many wonderful conversations last night during #IndieWeb vHWC-Americas...sat down to do my retrospective blog post for that and #HWCNewHaven and I can't remember a one. Maybe coffee will help. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/aP9w1) (twitter.com/_/status/1063040920571076610)
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[tmiller] [tantek] yes Leigh and I met up but I completely forgot to grab a photo
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aaronpk hey any plans for HWC NYC on Dec 12th? I'll be in town for a thing on the 13th and I could make sure to come early enough to hang out the evening of the 12th!
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GWG aaronpk, NYC always loves having you
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[jgmac1106] I owe [tmiller] an NYC visit
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[tmiller] [aaronpk] yes that would be the first one for December! I need to add to the wiki
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sknebel [tmiller]: you saw the new individual pages for HWCs? hopefully that makes your editing a bit less stressful :D i.e. you can just copy https://indieweb.org/events/2018-11-14-homebrew-website-club-nyc for a new date and just change the details there, without worrying about breaking anything
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[jgmac1106] [sknebel] what is best approach to adding older events I never put on wiki?
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sknebel all this new stuff is only active going forward
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jgmac1106 I know but I have events I never put on the wiki that only want exist on my website. I want to add back dated events, just not sure best way to proceed
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sknebel just add them to the existing pages or create ones for dates that don't have one yet
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sknebel or just add links to your external event pages to /Events and its archive
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[tantek] [jgmac1106] add them to existing pages for those days especially if you have photos
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[tantek] And or notes to link to
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[tantek] [jgmac1106]++ for https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/11/15/but-something-happens-when-you-give-a
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Loqi [jgmac1106] has 34 karma in this channel over the last year (75 in all channels)
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Loqi [Greg McVerry] But something happens when you give a kid a domain. (totally need to make a spoof When you give a mouse a website book. Knowing you control your identity, building your digital cyber infastructure, it improves our class and our world. #ncte18
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jgmac1106 [tantek] thx, will do, and I usually do have photos
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@jgmac1106 Interested in comparing knowledge graphs or at least tracking easily measurable knowledge pathways in #ds106 & #IndieWeb, use of Loqi , a bot, combined and connected to wiki enabled community driven chat room is pretty unique in field computer human… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2018/11/15/interested-in-comparing-knowledge-graphs-or-at (twitter.com/_/status/1063098613637791744)
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[tantek] wow just noticed the clever minimal h-event markup on /events, e.g. <a class="external h-event" href="/events/2018-11-14-homebrew-website-club-sf">🌁 San Francisco<data class="dt-start" value="2018-11-14"></data></a>
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[tantek] this looks great except the "external" class name seems wrong
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[tantek] I think I can fix this
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[tantek] tries something
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tantek.com edited /Events (+2) "/* November */ try using a wiki link for a mini h-event" (view diff)
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sknebel we already changed the CSS that the external doesn't cause any style changes
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[tantek] looks like that worked. extra span for the whole h-event but I think that's ok
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[tantek] This works: <span class="h-event">[[events/2018-11-14-homebrew-website-club-sf|🌁 San Francisco]]<data class="dt-start" value="2018-11-14"></data></span>
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[tantek] I'd prefer to avoid the extra class in the first place. Having to be wary of that in the CSS feels like a potential extra maintenance task
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[tantek] (e.g. future theme updates etc.)
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sknebel which reminds me...
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[tantek] sknebel - does that markup change affect Kaja?
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[tantek] I noticed <!--Kaja_magic_string--> 😂
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sknebel shouldn't
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[tantek] great, I'll fix the other cities too then
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sknebel the newsletter also uses mf2 parsing and will accept it too
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sknebel the magic_string doesn't do anything yet, I'm still figuring out how to edit that page best without breaking things
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[tantek] ok cool
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sknebel was pretty neat the the newsletter basically just works with the new style
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[tantek] Austin and Baltimore HWCs this week and last week listed in /events should be using the one-day-event template
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[tantek] instead of hand-coded markup
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[tantek] was there a reason to use hand-coded markup for those?
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tantek.com edited /Events (+4) "use span h-event for other HWCs yesterday" (view diff)
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[tantek] if kaja is parsing the microformats then it should work with the one-day-template as well
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[schmarty] i think [sknebel] added them as part of prep for kaja to automate them
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sknebel don't think so - I think aaronpk made those quickly. can you add that to the todo list?
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[tantek] I'll take care of it right now
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[tantek] just wanted to check if there was an automation reason before I did
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sknebel I want a todo since the automation should probably use that template too then
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[tantek] will the automation create them on /events ? I'm confused
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sknebel yes, that's the point of all this work
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[tantek] wait then where does the human create it?
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sknebel they create the page for the meetup
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[tantek] a-ha
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[tantek] and that's it?
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sknebel that's the goal, yes
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[tantek] how does Kaja discover the page for the meetup?
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sknebel looking at wiki changes and right now a category
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sknebel (current thinking documented on https://indieweb.org/Organizers/event_pages )
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tantek.com edited /Events (+427) "/* November */ use one-day-event template for previous HWC this/last week also" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Organizers/event_pages (+96) "/* ToDos */ use one-day-event template" (view diff)
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[tantek] sknebel ^^^ like that?
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[tantek] looks like the CSS in https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?oldid=53835&rcid=53704 is insufficient to remove the "external link" indicator from the .external links generated by the one-day-event template
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[tantek] because the mediawiki theme's style rule uses an ID (SMH) it overrides the fix-up in that CSS
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[tantek] div#content a[href^="https://"] beats .mw-body-content a.external[href^="https://indieweb.org"]
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[tantek] considers fixing one-day-event template to not generate class name "external" either
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[tantek] !tell gregorlove WDYT of wrapping the {{{event_description}}} in the one-day-event template inside a <nowiki> to block additional links from being inserted there? (would need to do this to make local wiki links work for {{{event_wiki_page}}}) asking because I saw your mf2 talk entry put an explicit <span class="u-url"> in the description.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[tantek] IWC Berlin folks - do we have YouTube links for the separate session videos? E.g. I was checking https://indieweb.org/2018/Berlin/Sessions and wondering if the hangouts/youtube links there were old from the live streams
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (+4) "next HWC and IWC!" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (-7) "shorter for Austin" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /next-hwc (+0) "next HWC!" (view diff)
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[tantek] wonders if Kaja can help with some of that too ^^^
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[tantek] !tell sknebel can we add minimal facial recognition to Kaja so it can sort the HWC photos for the week by number of people in the photo? (most to least) 🙂
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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sknebel sorry, got distracted by dinner. yeah, thanks for the todo, and good call on why the CSS doesn't work in that case
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Loqi sknebel: [tantek] left you a message 16 minutes ago: can we add minimal facial recognition to Kaja so it can sort the HWC photos for the week by number of people in the photo? (most to least) 🙂
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sknebel hah! might actually be possible
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jeremycherfas !tell jgmac1106 Did you see my comment on your wysiwyg post?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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jgmac1106 no will go look
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jgmac1106 oooh you could be on to something…that was another weird wordpress quirk changing quotes around will go try….I am so tempted to try and learn to build a personal form that strips the wyswig away
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jeremycherfas Kinda uindermines the point of owning my comments and expecting you to notice them :)
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jgmac1106 I would have no ability to do that…though if its tinymce it easy to add and remove elements in the editor…defaulting to plain text might be possible
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jgmac1106 strange is I have email notifications
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jeremycherfas Why not just use the plaintext non-visual editor?
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jgmac1106 I do….need to strip the editor from status updates mainly….little tricky @mapkyca helping….but don’t want to get to devy
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[tantek] davidmillar++ boom!
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Loqi davidmillar has 1 karma over the last year
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[tantek] indieweb challenge << Previously: [[2017-12-indieweb-challenge]]
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Loqi ok, I added "Previously: [[2017-12-indieweb-challenge]]" to a new "See Also" section of /knight-challenge-indieweb-application-2014 https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=53976&oldid=7542
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loqi.me edited /knight-challenge-indieweb-application-2014 (+62) "[tantek] added "Previously: [[2017-12-indieweb-challenge]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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[tantek] wat
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[tantek] nooooo
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tantek.com moved /knight-challenge-indieweb-application-2014 to /knight-challenge-application-2014 "no need to duplicate indieweb in the page name (it's in the domain / context) and was causing a false positive for Loqi"
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[tantek] retry
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[tantek] indieweb challenge << Previously: [[2017-12-indieweb-challenge]]
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Loqi ok, I added "Previously: [[2017-12-indieweb-challenge]]" to a brand new "See Also" section of /2017-12-indieweb-challenge https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=53986&oldid=43928
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loqi.me edited /2017-12-indieweb-challenge (+62) "[tantek] added "Previously: [[2017-12-indieweb-challenge]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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[tantek] 😭
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[tantek] ok I get that this is a limitation of how mediawiki search works
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[tantek] I'm guessing case matters
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[tantek] IndieWeb Challenge << Previously: [[2017-12-indieweb-challenge]]
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loqi.me edited /2018-12-indieweb-challenge (+62) "[tantek] added "Previously: [[2017-12-indieweb-challenge]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "Previously: [[2017-12-indieweb-challenge]]" to a brand new "See Also" section of /2018-12-indieweb-challenge https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=53987&oldid=53974
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[tantek] yup
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[tantek] decides to play with fire
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[tantek] indieweb challenge << IndieWeb Challenge
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loqi.me edited /2017-12-indieweb-challenge (+50) "[tantek] added "[[2018-12-indieweb-challenge]]" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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Loqi ok, I added "[[2018-12-indieweb-challenge]]" to a brand new "See Also" section of /2017-12-indieweb-challenge https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=53989&oldid=53988
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[tantek] :success-kid:
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tantek.com edited /2017-12-indieweb-challenge (-1) "actually want to link to the redirect in the see also" (view diff)
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pauloppenheim.com created /Template:PaulOppenheim (+132) "Created page with "<span class="h-card">{{sparkline| https://pauloppenheim.com/asset/pics/header.png}} [[User:Pauloppenheim.com|Paul Oppenheim]]</span>"" (view diff)
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pauloppenheim.com edited /events/2018-11-14-homebrew-website-club-sf (+20) "/* RSVP */" (view diff)
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pauloppenheim.com edited /User:Pauloppenheim.com (+108) (view diff)
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pauloppenheim.com edited /User:Pauloppenheim.com (+37) (view diff)
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@jgmac1106 As part of my experiments in trying to build an #IndieWeb learning experience with fully remixable instructor content and connected student blogs I have played with @microdotblog pretty fun platfrom (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/HztrT) (twitter.com/_/status/1063139332926648320)
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[tantek] pauloppenheim++ welcome back!!
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Loqi pauloppenheim has 1 karma over the last year
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@megarush1024 Quick note to #indieweb that Twitter is explicitly disconnecting Bridgy access. Don’t know if this is temporary or not but syndication and retrieving responses will be wonky for now if you’re using it. (twitter.com/_/status/1063142673681473541)
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[tantek] wait really? snarfed? ^^^
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@jackjamieson Testing a reply – this post should be marked up as a reply to https://github.com/dshanske/indieweb-post-kinds (https://jackjamieson.net/?p=2398) (twitter.com/_/status/1063143536625963008)
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gRegorLove No Bridgy Twitter issues for me lately.
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Loqi gRegorLove: [tantek] left you a message 15 hours, 47 minutes ago: none of the new HWC event pages have a Photos section - seems like that critical section was accidentally dropped? Going to add in both old/new places and make sure both are in /events until this is for sure fixed.
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Loqi gRegorLove: [tantek] left you a message 2 hours, 9 minutes ago: WDYT of wrapping the {{{event_description}}} in the one-day-event template inside a <nowiki> to block additional links from being inserted there? (would need to do this to make local wiki links work for {{{event_wiki_page}}}) asking because I saw your mf2 talk entry put an explicit <span class="u-url"> in the description.
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gRegorLove Not sure I follow. I wanted it to autolink that URL.
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[eddie] Yeah it's working fine for me
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[eddie] (Bridgy Twitter)
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david.shanske.com edited /Micropub-brainstorming (+111) "/* Query for places */" (view diff)
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[tantek] Gregorlove the trade off is that if the only link is generated by the template, I can make wiki links native wiki links that use the implied url rule
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[tantek] And thus don’t have class name external
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gRegorLove Sorry, I'm still not following. Maybe it will be clearer when I see it in action. I'd say go ahead and experiment.
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www.svenknebel.de edited /User:Www.svenknebel.de/vector.css (+569) "increased specificity" (view diff)
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sknebel argh, how's that not winning
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[tantek] sknebel, you only changed the first selector amongst the "x,y" set
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sknebel thx, of course
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sknebel ok, yeah, need to add 2 ids to force it above the other rule
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[tantek] no you can match the # of IDs, then have more classes
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[tantek] in fact please minimize use of IDs in your selectors
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[tantek] ideally use *only* the same ID you hare being forced to override
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[tantek] ok gRegorLove
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sknebel https://indieweb.org/User:Www.svenknebel.de/vector.css this appears to work everywhere
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tantek.com edited /Template:one-day-event (-52) "native wiki link for event_wiki_page, escape event_description in nowiki to avoid additional links there" (view diff)
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sknebel what's the problem with additonal links?
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[tantek] only one link works for implied u-url
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sknebel ah
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tantek.com edited /Template:one-day-event (-17) "allowing event description to override the primary link for an event" (view diff)
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sknebel yeah, not sure that's the right choice then
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sknebel in the template, the styling could also be overridden locally if you want to be sure
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sknebel or with a special class with !important, to not have to inspect the URL in template logic
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sknebel although I think my approach is fine, and covers all kinds of uses
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[tantek] hmm too many elements to use implied u-url
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[tantek] I think I need this extension, which has a nice syntax too IMO: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension%3aLinkAttributes
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sknebel aaronpk: can you update the css from https://indieweb.org/User:Www.svenknebel.de/vector.css again?
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[tantek] sknebel - I dislike the use of two IDs in those rules
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[tantek] should only have to use the one ID
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sknebel there is only one id
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[tantek] reviews https://github.com/rotsee/LinkAttributes/blob/master/LinkAttributes.php
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[tantek] apologies I misread the diff, re-reviewing latest version
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[tantek] r+
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[tantek] r+ on https://indieweb.org/User:Www.svenknebel.de/vector.css that is
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sknebel I tweaked it after your feedback to only use the one ID the other rule I want to override uses too
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[tantek] hmm looks like that extension needs a patch to allow the class attribute
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@timmmmyboy Surveillance, Accessibility, the IndieWeb, Containers, Vaporwave on VHS, and so much more. I can’t wait for June! https://domains.reclaimhosting.com/ #domains19 (twitter.com/_/status/1063189002256297984)
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tantek.com edited /Template:one-day-event (+69) "revert experiment, too much markup to depend on implied u-url, look into other approaches instead" (view diff)
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@ChrisAldrich ↩️ I like that idea. Perhaps between the models for IndieWeb news and @kickscondor's http://indiweb.xyz, we could create a syndicatable (pre-print) academic journal that allows sorting by top level academic disciplines. I don't recall though, [more...] https://boffosocko.com/2018/11/15/reply-to-greg-mcverry-about-academic-samizdat-pre-print-server/ (twitter.com/_/status/1063191465424125952)
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@sdepolo Totally agree, but how? Seems most use blogs as fodder for social these days, if at all. What will it take to reclaim content onto to our own blogs in this era of addictive social media @JasonMillerCA? #MPB2B #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1063195016892317696)
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@vincentlistens I took the opportunity tonight to clean up my front matter code for sending #Webmentions It had the added benefit of reducing the build time too! https://vincentp.me/articles/2018/11/15/21-30/ #IndieWeb #Jekyll (twitter.com/_/status/1063197064581062656)
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@sdepolo ↩️ I keep hearing this. And talking to folks at #MPB2B and at #indieweb yesterday, I hear I am not the only one finding it harder than expected to change my habits from checking social all day to blogging regularly. (twitter.com/_/status/1063197516072538114)
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[tantek] [sdepolo] we need to get you set up with Aperture and an indieweb social reader - you may be able to use that as something to check instead of social media
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[sdepolo] Yes plz [tantek]
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[tantek] [sdepolo] if you try going to aperture.p3k.io and signing up with your domain, does it work?
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[sdepolo] I’ll check and let you know.
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[sdepolo] I also heard last night that microdotblogs might be something for me to look into as a stepping stone from Twitter
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[tantek] yes - it may be an easier path than WordPress
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aaronpk definitely micro.blog is a more polished experience
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aaronpk if you have wordpress there's an aperture plugin that will make setting things up easier. install aperture and indieauth plugins and things "should" just work
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aaronpk but still micro.blog is even easier than that :)
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[tantek] except for the yak shaving of export/import and preserving old permalinks
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aaronpk migrating anything is never straightforward
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[tantek] hence not "easier"
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aaronpk migrating to wordpress isn't easy either, same problem
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[tantek] no she's on wordpress right now. zero migration.
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aaronpk oh that wasn't part of this claim
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[tantek] yes her existing setup was always part of the context
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aaronpk that was not clear from this conversation
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[tantek] then I misread your expression "if you have wordpress ... but still micro.blog is even easier than that "
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aaronpk okay youre right, i left out that factor in the consideration. i was just talking about the experience of setting up an experience similar to twitter social media
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[manton] Micro.blog does automatically redirect old permalinks from WordPress imports, by the way. But yeah, migration always has to be done carefully. Easy for things to not get fully migrated, e.g. images.
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Loqi [manton]: gRegorLove left you a message 4 days, 22 hours ago: I archived the initial Austin planning section on https://indieweb.org/2019/Austin/Planning
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aaronpk that's amazing
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aaronpk nice touch
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[manton] Thanks!
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[tantek] that *is* amazing
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[tantek] [sdepolo] how many posts do you have in WordPress currently, and would you consider switching to using the paid micro.blog service instead of maintaining your own WordPress?
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[tantek] you would keep your own domain name, permalinks, etc., and your old permalinks would still work
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[tantek] aside: [manton] while you're here - ok with 🌮 for Austin? E.g. in IWC / HWC lists - like the current sidebar and events listings here: https://indieweb.org/Events
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GWG Trying to take my users?
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GWG If it happens it happens
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[tantek] GWG, the use-case has changed, so I'm trying my best to accurately explain options to [sdepolo] for moving forward.
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[tantek] What would be neat if is export/import both directions, i.e. a roundtrip, was lossless
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[tantek] WordPress -> micro.blog -> WordPress
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[tantek] GWG, do you have or know of documentation for importing from micro.blog into WordPress?
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GWG Oh. I wasn't really serious anyway
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GWG Not really
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