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[tantek] !tell [jgmac1106] when you have a moment, can you find a representative image or logo for IWC New Haven to put in the top right corner of https://indieweb.org/2019/New_Haven just as we had something there for https://indieweb.org/2018/NYC? Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@JmacDotOrg Flickr’s planning to delete photos from free accounts with more than 1,000 photos next month. It’s as good a time any to take back ownership of your umpty-year-old digital photos, from back when using Flickr as a hard drive kinda made sense. #IndieWeb https://gizmodo.com/last-call-flickr-starts-deleting-your-old-photos-tomor-1832320281 (twitter.com/_/status/1098022564348264448)
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aaronpk [manton] is there a reason you closed the other PRs?
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@ericwbailey I like the push towards indieweb I've been seeing for a lot of reasons. One of them is keeping layout interesting! The more people experimenting, the more cool interaction patterns we'll discover! (twitter.com/_/status/1098023755371155459)
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aaronpk plurality++
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Loqi plurality has 1 karma in this channel over the last year (2 in all channels)
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[manton] [aaronpk] Did I? I was clicking quickly and may have glossed over something... I was just closing a couple tickets.
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aaronpk oh did i read that wrong? i just saw a bunch of emails that said closed
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aaronpk oh they were issues lol not PRs
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aaronpk nvm carry on
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[manton] Heh, cool.
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@murderofcrows ↩️ Tomorrow! #Seattle #HWC #IndieWeb @WaywardCoffee (twitter.com/_/status/1098081977314361344)
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[tantek] dougbeal++
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Haha, I'm totally open to helping people out! I need to figure out what people are using though. For now, definitely pop into our chat for the #IndieWeb at https://chat.indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1098084921728356353)
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@jackyalcine ↩️ Yo, can we talk a bit about this? Especially since developers have a GOOD stance to help people get back into ownership of their content. Have you checked out some of the stuff at http://indieweb.org/why? (twitter.com/_/status/1098085210560684033)
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[tantek] jacky++ for community outreach 🙂
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[tantek] jacky I see your RSVP! and I see a maybe from aaronpk! whoa
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aaronpk i'm just randomly in SF sometimes
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[tantek] pretty funny, so far a disjoint set between wiki RSVPs and indie RSVPs for SF
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aaronpk too much work to do them both and indie RSVP is easier for me :D
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[tantek] that's the goal!
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jacky lol
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jacky I want to get to a point where I can just do it from there
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jacky I also gotta improve my RSVP marku
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jacky *markupp
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pixeldreamz.com edited /events/2019-02-20-homebrew-website-club (+15) "/* Karlsruhe */" (view diff)
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Zegnat Karlsruhe is going well it seems! I will try to make it to vHWC tonight, want to get going on some indieweb projects again
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jeremycherfas Me too, on both of those.
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jeremycherfas Will vHWC be Jitsi again?
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Zegnat Uuh, I don’t know, let me check the wiki :P
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Zegnat When is next-hwc?
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Loqi Join us for an evening of IndieWeb personal site demos and discussions! Any questions? Ask in the chatroom! More… https://indieweb.org/next-hwc
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jeremycherfas I should have done that myself, of course.
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Loqi yea
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Zegnat Apparently it isn’t anywhere? sknebel?
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jeremycherfas Yikes. Totally virtual.
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sknebel heh
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sknebel preferences?
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jeremycherfas Not really. Jitsi was fine for me. So is Mumble.
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Zegnat No preference here either. Both worked for me
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Zegnat Jitsi may be easier if we have other people to invite
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@JuhaSiltala Decentralize It Mozilla's IRL podcast on decentralization. #fediverse #web #intenet #indieweb #decentralize https://irlpodcast.org/season4/episode6/ (twitter.com/_/status/1098168853635444737)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Time to rediscover the joy of RSS but with microformats and new social readers using h-feed. Taught using #IndieWeb stuff (still use RSS to embed iframes of class feeds) like post types: read, watch, listen. We connect all our posts through… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/20/brlamb-time-to-rediscover-the-joy-of (twitter.com/_/status/1098173272531914752)
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@biou ↩️ an hosted platform will probably give you this level of "stability" but you don't fully own your content anymore. I prefer the POSSE approach https://indieweb.org/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/1098173632675803136)
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@gsvasan IndieWeb: Taking back your content - Decentralized Web Summit 2018 https://youtu.be/y9FSPcmybT8 (twitter.com/_/status/1098175296845561857)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I just sick of @WordPress too, just way to many dependencies and playing "which plugin broke my site whackamole" got old after 7 years. Plus I could never get the #IndieWeb stuff working on WordPress. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/11AyRZ) (twitter.com/_/status/1098176395782615042)
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@jgmac1106 Today in discussing use of an article tag for marking up note https://indieweb.org/note rather than a div...I learned article tag ISNT for long form writing but any stand alone content, and B etymology of article traces to this definition long before… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/20/today-in-discussing-use-of-an (twitter.com/_/status/1098179946265169921)
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@jgmac1106 Today's #IndieWeb lesson on php spent trying to ask what key words should I use to find a site that will teach me how to put data saved in a form on a webpage. Hoping now have tools to begin my search to find the learning tools I need tomorrow...or just… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/20/todays-indieweb-lesson-on-php-spent-trying (twitter.com/_/status/1098189807791075328)
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@aaronpk ↩️ You should come check out what we're doing on the #IndieWeb, it's basically exactly this, built with many W3C standards! Here's a writeup about my current social media experience, I stopped using Twitter ages ago: https://aaronparecki.com/2018/04/20/46/indieweb-reader-my-new-home-on-the-internet (twitter.com/_/status/1098209013315948544)
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jeremycherfas !rt https://twitter.com/_/status/1098209485666045952
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Loqi Sorry, you have to be listed on https://indieweb.org/irc-people before you can help retweet
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jeremycherfas @loqi It me. I yam.
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aaronpk uhoh
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[tantek] This is a good article to use as a model for explaining IndieWeb building blocks and the progress we've made: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/10/webassemblys-post-mvp-future/
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@tbc0 @lsanger I was going to wait until I have more stick time on http://micro.blog (I'm tbc there) but when I saw http://indieweb.org this morning and got a better feel for what @manton2 is up to I decided to give him and those websites a shout-out. You can thank me later. (twitter.com/_/status/1098237551285018624)
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[tantek] Wow I think that Larry Sanger article requires a point by point reply article
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[tantek] what is a article reply
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Loqi An article reply is a reply written as an article, with an explicit post name and often structured post content, as well as in-reply-to another post https://indieweb.org/article_reply
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[tantek] what is a reply article
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "reply article" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "reply article is ____", a sentence describing the term)
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[tantek] reply article is /article_reply
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Loqi ok
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@Everipedia ↩️ @aaronpk @lsanger hey aaron! you should create the indieweb page on everipedia, we can tweet it! (twitter.com/_/status/1098238928115519489)
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[jgmac1106] If there was ever the most illustrative use case of NEVER blockchain... An encyclopedia would be it
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@lsanger ↩️ Neat! Do you have to use http://indieweb.com in order to “join the movement”? If so, it’s not decentralized. And it also needs independent standards, or it won’t have the ultimate effect—it’d remain a front end to existing services. Anyway, I will definitely read up on this. (twitter.com/_/status/1098240582793580544)
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aaronpk where on earth did he get the indieweb.com link?
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[Vincent] lol, looks like he skimmed everything you said and made a bunch of conclusions that are all wrong
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[Vincent] might be worth pointing him to the recent W3C articles like Micropub etc Then the penny might drop
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aaronpk For real
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[jgmac1106] Something like... Instead of hiding wiki data in some oddball technology you could have people publish articles in human readable form and share them with micropub?
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@aaronpk ↩️ hmm I don't think I understand, there's already a page but it appears to be a copy of the Wikipedia page, which isn't actually a very good description https://everipedia.org/wiki/lang_en/IndieWeb/ (twitter.com/_/status/1098244830843482113)
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[tantek] aaronpk, try sending this https://indieweb.org/graphics#Illustrations_and_Sketch_Notes
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[tantek] I mean the actual graphic
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aaronpk oh nice
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[tantek] sometimes when people don't read your text, better to send them a summary graphic
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[tantek] different people learn differently (no judgments)
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aaronpk true
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aaronpk my eyes tend to glaze over with diagrams with too many arrows unless someone is there walking me through it with a story
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aaronpk but i totally get that lots of narrative text isn't great for others too
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[tantek] exactly
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[tantek] also check out THAT Micropub logo (in the diagram) 😂
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@lsanger ↩️ You don’t need to prove anything to me! I’m simply saying that I I would like to read an analysis of how well indieweb satisfies the vision I laid out. What we don’t need (IMO) is a competing network; we need, rather, is an encompassing supernetwork. (twitter.com/_/status/1098249584030101504)
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Zegnat Whelp, I will probably not make it to vHWC :(
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Zegnat Still at work
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[Vincent] " an encompassing supernetwork”. Sounds like facebook. I’m not sure what he is driving at?
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[jgmac1106] Encompassing supernetwork=web.... I avoid conversation with everything must be blockchain folks..and while I understand the argument DNS isn't decentralized because you "rent" it... It is decentralized enough for me
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[jgmac1106] I put put a call for design contributors... But it's a balance line...people jump on "exploitation wanting free art" to which I reply "open source projects looking for openly licensed work"
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@lsanger ↩️ I’m quite aware that these are not new ideas. Lots of people have been talking about this sort of thing for years. It’s cool IndieWeb has made a start. Pretty exciting! I would like to learn more. Have you worked on my (4) and (5) at all, to make old nets forward-compatible? (twitter.com/_/status/1098251724169502720)
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[schmarty] lol i am definitely going to this "HTML-based" comedy show tonight after HWC NYC: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/internet-explorers-online-dating-tickets-55120835904
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aaronpk omg schmarty amazing
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@jgmac1106 events/2016-06-09-dwebsummit-indieweb - IndieWeb: https://indieweb.org/events/2016-06-09-dwebsummit-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1098252240052211712)
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@kevinmarks ↩️ Hey larry! You should come create an everipedia page on the http://indieweb.org wiki to explain how it benefits an independent web. You can log in with your own domain or come to http://chat.indieweb.org to find out how to edit it through chat! (twitter.com/_/status/1098252343928336384)
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@aaronpk ↩️ Yeah basically 4 and 5 are covered by the idea of POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE but it works the opposite direction. I'm writing this on my website, and it gets automatically copied to Twitter. I also am reading your replies in Monocle, my reader app. (twitter.com/_/status/1098253537706790912)
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@aaronpk ↩️ Yeah I do like that idea! I might have to experiment with something like that. All the pieces are already in place to have that work with the IndieWeb building blocks too! (twitter.com/_/status/1098255168259338241)
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@lsanger ↩️ That sounds great! Chromium and Firefox plug-ins that incorporate Indieweb protocol content in Twitter and Facebook feeds might enable the mass exodus that needs to happen. (twitter.com/_/status/1098257138453950465)
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[tantek] aaronpk++ nicely done!
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[tantek] and he's right, there's a lot of potential UX smoothness we can introduce with browser add-ons
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@aaronpk ↩️ Wonderful! Yes, three of them are W3C Recommendations! There's also a few more pieces to the puzzle that were created after the W3C group concluded, more details here: https://spec.indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1098261724715597826)
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[eddie] aaronpk++ for advocacy through thoughtful listening and responding
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[eddie] aaronpk I'm installing Jitsi on my AWS server, I have a temporary hostname on my own domain, but if you want to point meet.indieweb.org (or a similar subdomain) at the servers IP I can setup Jitsi using that hostname instead
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aaronpk ohh that's something i can use my AWS credits for!
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jeremycherfas !tell [eddie] for tonight?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[eddie] jeremycherfas: Yep, I'm setting it up for HWC US for tonight, and if all goes well for potential use at IWC Austin. I'm not on the ground though, so that's totally up to aaronpk and them, but it'll be available if that's what they want to use
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[eddie] aaronpk Ohh that's true
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aaronpk i'd like to use it cause it means we can stream to youtube from an ipad easier
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[eddie] Yeah, it definitely seems like a great opportunity to merge multiple things in one place
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[jgmac1106] I could not get Mike Elgan to try IndieWeb... But I hadn't done microformats blogger template yet. Should bug him again... Calling Google Photos nice book.... Though he hacked together a really cool private social network with photos
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@aaronpk Pretty pleased I managed to have this entire conversation with @lsanger on Twitter using only my own website and tools! Never had to visit Twitter or use any Twitter apps! Our #indieweb tools have come a long way! #ownyourdata (twitter.com/_/status/1098271239334809600)
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@aaronpk ↩️ @lsanger and here is my previous post pushed out to Twitter and visible on Mastodon! #indieweb #ftw #distribution https://t.co/GLIx2GgNKy (twitter.com/_/status/1098273374285877248)
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[tantek] This is super good and a great demonstration of this all working: https://aaronparecki.com/replies
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@zachleat ↩️ @ChrisFerdinandi @malchata @ericwbailey https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1098275515570536448)
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aaronpk bahaha 😂 https://twitter.com/ChrisFerdinandi/status/1098276009386958850
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@ChrisFerdinandi @zachleat @malchata @ericwbailey Oh fuck yes! More of this please! (twitter.com/_/status/1098276009386958850)
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[schmarty] loving that reaction 😄
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@jgmac1106 Hey Elm City Webmakers just a reminder tonights Homebrew Website Club meeting canceled due to weather. #edu407update #edu307update I will attend Virtual Americas. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1av8T4) (twitter.com/_/status/1098277678724120576)
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[jgmac1106] And the #ownyourdata callback to Mastodon convo with cwebber et al
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@t ↩️ looks good! And nice visual link from your tweet copy back to your original post! Welcome to #IndieWeb and #POSSE! http://tantek.com/t4z72 (twitter.com/_/status/1098282470758367232)
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@Johannes_Ernst Hey @pfefferle, Grüsse an den #hwc in Karlsruhe von diesem ehemaligen Karlsruher (FZI, nicht weit von euch!), der heute abend wieder Mal zum Homebrew Website Club in San Francisco gehen wird! Wie die Welt kleiner geworden ist! (twitter.com/_/status/1098286131626401792)
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aaronpk Gumroad just announced their "Creators Fund", they'll be giving microgrants between $500 and $5,000 to various projects! and it sounds like things in the indieweb scope could be relevant! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScoxbHTGD-yBqi3mNNrP57la5AoUXAeHuDpEDduyz2o31GWig/viewform
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@wiegimania Fehlersuche! Homebrew Website Club #Karlsruhe #IndieWeb #hwc w/ @depone @pfefferle @jstrobel @tenc4te https://t.co/Tt8qkaZYID (twitter.com/_/status/1098288656819863553)
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@mmetcalfe ↩️ It is much easier to do eduglu today than it was a decade ago. #indieweb is here, ready for us to use in education. We just need to get using it. (twitter.com/_/status/1098290506050797569)
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@cowglow Another successful #homebrewwebsiteclub meeting #indieweb #indiedev #php #javascript #dev #devlife #developerslive (twitter.com/_/status/1098291715641917440)
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[schmarty] [jgmac1106] /2019/New_Haven is missing a lot of info. thinking about coming up but it's ~2.5 hrs from the city and i'll need a place to crash overnight. :}
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Once you do start please add your name to https://indieweb.org/Education and here are remixable tools we made https://glitch.com/@jgmac1106/indieweb-learning-networks bunch of us have over 2 million dollars in grant applications pending to bring #IndieWeb to Education. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1gGNHp) (twitter.com/_/status/1098292324403167232)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ Really #IndieWeb and the #OpenPedagogy movement of #DoOO and cMOOCs like @Downes @gseimens @acouros began at same time... #IndieWeb trying to bring back blogs and educators finally getting enough freedom to use them in school. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/Vabee) (twitter.com/_/status/1098293224211398656)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ #IndieWeb went with very hard filters aimed at value aligned dev community while educators had to fight against the myth of digital native and take people online for the first time. The tech stack and people power now coalescing. Makes me proud and… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/20/indieweb-went-with-very-hard-filters-aimed (twitter.com/_/status/1098293832742027265)
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jacky aaronpk: nice find!
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ started at opposite ends of spectrum working on same problem. Maybemiddle out approach better, but not sure we could handle compression. #IndieWeb building blocks, specifically through microformats offers a greater sense of interoperability not… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/20/started-at-opposite-ends-of-spectrum (twitter.com/_/status/1098295364371783680)
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@jgmac1106 Best part is all the #IndieWeb stuff, like #OpenPedagogy stuff works on an HTML/CSS first vision and approach to the web and I think this is the most viable and equitable approach for the spread of #OER across the global south. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/JGqTN) (twitter.com/_/status/1098295921190887429)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ We built enough tools that can allow for full decentralization of tools, if you can publish HTML you can use #IndieWeb building blocks with the ability to syndicate across networks or readers... All because of a little metada included in the content of… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/20/we-built-enough-tools-that-can-allow (twitter.com/_/status/1098296707085975552)
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@jgmac1106 Isn't that what a teacher wants? How would teachers answer the question: "Do you want your stdents work and metadata to be in one file you can read or have in separate files only a machine can read?"? That's what #IndieWeb can do for #OER movement. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/1Ep9CJ) (twitter.com/_/status/1098297506461638663)
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@jgmac1106 ↩️ I only used #IndieWeb web stuff from 2014-2018 got more involved after looking into the standards used by #OER community... There really aren't any in use but plenty of people making academic careers defining vocabularies and specs no one will use. (https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/s/27JXzo) (twitter.com/_/status/1098298138056638468)
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[tantek] !tell [jgmac1106] please get an IWC New Haven co-organizer *ASAP* that can be actively present in IRC or Slack meta channel and help with the wiki pages, we need to get all this in shape ASAP. If [schmarty] is having difficulty, that means expect nearly everyone else is too: https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2019-02-20/1550688212390900
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[schmarty] thanks tantek :}
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[tantek] Us /organizers also need our own meta-organizing 🙂
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[jgmac1106] Yes was on my agenda for today they closed campus will do when I get home bout an hour
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[tantek] (key point here: don't take on all the burden yourself. find partners to help organize and get them to show up)
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[tantek] self-care is a key point here. no organizer should be driving themselves to burnout (disappointment, frustration, etc.), and it's on us (all organizers) to keep each other aware of that and be supportive accordingly.
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[tantek] and frankly I do think we need to be honest with ourselves about the likelihood of those downsides of solo organizing, and provide both support and also firm feedback that solo (present) organizer events are probably better postponed until an actually present co-organizer is found.
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[tantek] even if the timing of the IWC is adjacent to some other event, we shouldn't let that drive organizers into solo frustration. I think better to encourage a smaller scale optional short meetup to try to build co-organizer interest, then if that's found, try again next year
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[tantek] (I'm thinking of what happened with FOSDEM / V... and how we could be better about that balance/mix of being supportive yet also being realistic with each other)
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[tantek] not sure how to write this up on /organizers or /IWC etc.
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[tantek] feedback / corrections / improvements to ^^^ welcome and encouraged!
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[tantek] [jgmac1106]++ for amazing outreach and responsiveness on public posts / tweets etc. Seriously amazing.
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[tantek] Dmitri! Haven't seen that name since IWC NYC!
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[jgmac1106] tmiller++
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[jgmac1106] For volunteering to coorganize New Haven
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@manton2 We just posted Core Intuition 361. Looking forward to IndieWebCamp Austin and talking about whether new Marzipan rumors will influence our plans this year. https://coreint.org/2019/02/episode-361-this-is-an-opportunity/ (twitter.com/_/status/1098318662694506507)
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chrisaldrich Looking at Sanger's Twitter conversation with aaronpk earlier, I'm wondering if anyone has ever considered having the IndieWeb wiki be able to accept webmentions and potentially add links to the "See also" sections (or a separate webmention section)
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chrisaldrich This could be a great way to have websites that link to it be able to begin autodocumenting the wiki at the same time.
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chrisaldrich I know the wiki already has a webmention.io account, but are we actively doing anything with that data other than piping it into the chat channels?
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chrisaldrich as an example, it would be cool to make a read/bookmark post on my site and add a link to a particular indieweb wiki page so that the article could be later added/referenced there...
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[manton] [aaronpk] I'm going to send you a pull request for a very basic 2019.indieweb.org landing page instead of the redirect. It's not great but I feel like something else needs to be there this week to avoid confusion.
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chrisaldrich it might be a cross between something that directories like news.indieweb and indieweb.xyz are doing, but in a more wiki-like fashion?
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[aaronpk] Sounds good!
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aaronpk Something is better than nothing!
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[jgmac1106] okay what I am doing wrong. I have tried like everything to get the page logo to appear
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dougbeal|imac jgmac1106 needs to be {, it looks like
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dougbeal|imac jgmac1106 also looks like it has to be a url
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@manton2 Doors open for IndieWebCamp Austin at 9am on Saturday. We’ll have coffee and breakfast tacos. Full schedule and registration details: https://2019.indieweb.org/austin ☕ (twitter.com/_/status/1098338871971115010)
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[jgmac1106] dougbeal no it is a file uploaded to the wiki those shoudl work for img yes?
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dougbeal|imac jgmac1106: not really sure, if its something that evaluates to a url, then it should work with a template
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[jgmac1106] yeah the url to the img worked...
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[jgmac1106] thx
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aaronpk Thanks manton! Page is live
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aaronpk I'll try to pretty it up soon but this is better than nothing!
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[eddie] Success! Self-hosted Jitsi is live for vHWC Americas tonight.
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[eddie] With hours to spare
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GWG Eddie, I forgot we had one tonight
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[eddie] 🙂
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[eddie] I posted about it too far in advance that's why
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[eddie] A good problem to have, now I just need to remember to send reminders
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[eddie] I should probably also add "invitation" support to my site so I can invite people
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@EddieHinkle The Virtual IndieWeb Meetup Americas is tonight! Come join us while we hang out and chat about our websites, what we're blogging about or what we'd like to post in the future. (https://eddiehinkle.com/2019/02/20/20/note/) (twitter.com/_/status/1098343840518414336)
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[jgmac1106] !tell eddie I have people asking for the virtual link
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@jgmac1106 Yes: Heading to the Virtual Americas Homebrew Website Club tonight: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/20/yes-heading-to-the-virtual-americas-homebrew-website-club-tonight (twitter.com/_/status/1098346878859657216)
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[jgmac1106] darn rsvpd to your note not the event
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[jgmac1106] !tell drewmcweeney here is the info on virtual: https://eddiehinkle.com/2019/02/20/1/event/
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi Virtual IndieWeb Meetup Americas - February 20
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[eddie] No worries. RSVPs aren’t working right on my site anyway :)
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Loqi [eddie]: [jgmac1106] left you a message 2 minutes ago: I have people asking for the virtual link
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[eddie] Yep, there you go. That link has the Jitsi Meeting Room url
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@jgmac1106 Yes: Heading to Virtual Americas IndieWeb meet up tonight #literaces #edtechchat #digped #doOO Join Us https://eddiehinkle.com/2019/02/20/1/event/: https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/20/yes-heading-to-virtual-americas-indieweb-meet-up-tonight-literaces (twitter.com/_/status/1098347719314325504)
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@tchambers OK: http://micro.blog update: Syndication working everywhere it can pretty flawlessly. Am exporting old http://WordPress.com, Medium, and Instagram content down, to import into http://tchambers.micro.blog. Then moving my personal domain name over. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1098350248899035137)
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[schmarty] HWC NYC starting our quiet writing hour ... in a busy coffee shop. lots of folks spread out here.
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aaronpk Nice! Don't forget a photo!
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GWG I am at my doctor
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GWG Sorry to miss everyone
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[schmarty] will do our best. [tmiller] and I just snagged a table. [dmitshur] RSVP'd so keeping an eye out. i should make a little table stand w/ the IWC logo
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[schmarty] GWG hope it is an okay doctor visit!
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GWG Just waiting for a checkup
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@jgmac1106 And it doesn't have to be Known to Known.. Webmentions is a W3C standard, makes the web our network. Webmentions do work and look better with microformats. This is why #IndieWeb struggles in WordPress. It is amazingly hard to add properties to HTML… https://quickthoughts.jgregorymcverry.com/2019/02/20/and-it-doesnt-have-to-be-known (twitter.com/_/status/1098354134204514305)
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dmcweeney Just joined the meet up and I only see myself
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[jgmac1106] 6:30–7:30pm PST (2:30–3:30 UTC, 9:30–10:30pm EST)
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[jgmac1106] you are three hours early but you can get work done
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[jgmac1106] tried to make you a tutorial for joining wiki..
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[jgmac1106] i have to go eat
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[eddie] Thanks [jgmac1106] I was about to type that. But brings up something I was just thinking about
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dmcweeney Oh that's why!
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[eddie] I’m thinking for the Virtual Americas meetup, I wonder if once a month if should be primarily PST and once a month primarily EST.
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dmcweeney I'm way early!
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[jgmac1106] but basically drewemcweeney add a widget and add in <a href="https:/github/yourusername" rel="me">GitHub</a>
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[jgmac1106] better yet go to micoformats.org/wiki/h-card and add the entire thing in an html side widget
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dmcweeney You'll have to help me during HWC virtual!
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@jalbertbowdenii ↩️ along these lines: https://open.canada.ca/en/Canada%e2%80%99s_Directive_on_Open_Government_%e2%80%93_Creating_a_Culture_of_%e2%80%9cOpen_by_Default%e2%80%9d https://creativecommons.org/2016/04/28/u-s-require-open-default-federal-government-software-code/ basically what indieweb is/civic tech should always be. (twitter.com/_/status/1098369237968699392)