#meta 2020-06-07

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boffosocko.com edited /2020/Pop-ups/GardenAndStream (+263) "/* Articles */ Will Stedden article: The Swale" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /jargonition (+236) "prompted by [tantek] and dfn added by [tantek]" (view diff)
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aaronpk so, I've been hanging out in a few communities on Discord lately, and noticing something interesting they do which i'm wondering might help cut down on the jargon questions in the main channel
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loqi.me edited /jargonition (+141) "[tantek] added " Example: [[Kubernetes]] please fix. Currently reads like “jargon is jargon jargon environment used to manage jargon”" to "See Also"" (view diff)
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aaronpk discord has channels and channel groups, *and* importantly, makes all the channels visible so they are all discoverable to newcomers
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aaronpk and the way i've seen a lot of places use it is to make very topic-specific channels
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aaronpk which i think makes it so that new people can look through the list and will find an appropriate place for a question, rather than asking in the main channel
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aaronparecki.com edited /Category:jargon (+63) "/* Keywords */ add some stuff from recent chat" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /Category:jargon (+37) "/* Keywords */ and more" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /Category:jargon (+121) "+cloud*, kubernetes, container*, orchestration, VPS, env and a bunch more. -peers, -well-known because those have a non-trivia chance of being used as normal English" (view diff)
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aaronpk i really doubt anyone would say "well-known" hyphenated in a normal sentence :)
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[tantek] oh does Loqi distinguish hyphens or not when matching?
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[tantek] Loqi, hyphens or not?
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Loqi not
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aaronpk haha
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aaronpk i should double check
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Loqi yea
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aaronpk ah hyphens are ignored, ok
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tantek.com edited /Category:jargon (+98) "a-z" (view diff)
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@dealmeida I'm planning to attend the IndieWebCamp 2020 West conference https://blog.taoetc.org/indiewebcamp_2020_west/index.html (twitter.com/_/status/1269443865460658176)
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tantek.com edited /Category:jargon (+271) "X marks the jargon" (view diff)
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@sofimi Decentralize. Own your data. Don't let corporations X, Y, Z control your online universe. Make your own site. Now's a good time to read up on the principles of http://indieweb.org. (twitter.com/_/status/1269526022254325760)
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[tantek] Now's a good time to update those principles
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@gambe_ro What is the IndieWeb? Link: https://indieweb.org/ Commenti: https://gambe.ro/s/msujjj #privacy #web (twitter.com/_/status/1269533802482843663)
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@botwikidotorg #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/1269635469589073921)
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[tantek] is it worth replying to that saying yes and you might be interested in POSSE as a way of formalizing that relationship?
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[tantek] aaronpk I think you first pointed to that twet
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[tantek] still gardening /silo-quits
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tantek.com edited /silo-quits (+1752) "tigther dfn, Who section inviting people, and clarifying who should / should not be added, how to kindly invite people" (view diff)
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[tantek] review new section please: https://indieweb.org/silo-quits#Who
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[tantek] per https://chat.indieweb.org/meta/2020-05-27#t1590588407001700
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Loqi [aaronpk] Wel that's an unexpected reaction
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[tantek] (thread there)
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[tantek] ^^^ aaronpk, [KevinMarks], [jgmac1106], jacky (since y'all contributed to that conversation)
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[tantek] and [schmarty] as someone not involved in the previous discussion who also has good community outreach intuition
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[tantek] (and anyone else here obviously who has a thought, opinion, or reaction, review requests like these are explicit, all are implicitly welcome to contribute)
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[schmarty] tantek: i like it! i think that page may be missing a "why". as in - why do we track silo-quits but also why would someone want to add themselves (or ask to be added) to the page?
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[tantek] that's a good point
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[tantek] there's an implied context there that would help to make explicit
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[tantek] alright will attempt a quick draft
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[schmarty] tantek++ !
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[KevinMarks] Also the first section is future quits but most are now in the past
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@pawelgrzybek ↩️ Thats so cool. I am exploring the subject. I came across http://webmention.io, http://webmention.app and http://brid.gy. I am going to write an article about it. As a good IndieWeb citizen, on my own website of course :) Thanks for a tip @fluffy. (twitter.com/_/status/1269673146480762882)
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@JethroLising ↩️ Agreed. Reminds me of the IndieWev intiative https://indieweb.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/1269673079359373314)
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tantek.com edited /silo-quits (+809) "draft a summary why section off the top of my head" (view diff)
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[tantek] [schmarty] per request, please review: https://indieweb.org/silo-quits#Why
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[tantek] fluffy++ nicely done
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tantek.com edited /silo-quits (+634) "/* Future silo quitters */ Unclear silo quits / Mike Elgan unclear if he actually followed through on his indended date, no evidence on his blog from that range" (view diff)
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[tantek] [KevinMarks] I looked into the first supposed future silo-quit and verified that it was unlikely / unknown whether it happened. Can you take a look at perhaps another one and see if you can verify it or not? https://indieweb.org/silo-quits#Future_silo_quits
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@anomalily ↩️ Have you heard of @indiewebcamp - they're all about the interactability of social media with your own account. My website syndicates all my tweets and vice versa. (twitter.com/_/status/1269689292663615488)
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@bmann ↩️ check out WebMentions, an #IndieWeb standard that allows for comments elsewhere, including on Twitter, to be aggregated back. WP has a plug-in that makes it easy, can work with any web page with https://webmention.io/ (twitter.com/_/status/1269689037788454915)
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@fluffy ↩️ Oh, absolutely, I feel that http://wordpress.com is trying to be Yet Another Silo instead of actually embracing open blogging standards. I agree that they should enable the IndieWeb plugins there by default. (twitter.com/_/status/1269694269490528257)
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[tantek] anomalily++
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beesbuzz.biz edited /Webmention (-15) "/* Pushl */" (view diff)
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beesbuzz.biz edited /Pushl (+224) (view diff)
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@fluffy ↩️ Yeah, http://micro.blog is definitely doing things the right way as far as IndieWeb stuff goes. They're still such a tiny player but it's growing and I hope they manage to make it work. (twitter.com/_/status/1269697775765078016)
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tantek.com edited /space (+202) "add specific terms to dfn, change guidance to be explicit about avoiding use of the term/phrase "white space"" (view diff)
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jacky.wtf edited /dokku (-245) "Dokku does support multiple users; see http://dokku.viewdocs.io/dokku/deployment/user-management/ and community plugins to handle this." (view diff)
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aaronpk uhoh netsplit time
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